Just to remind everyone of two painful facts we shouldn’t ignore:
1. Mamdani won a Denocratic primary, NOT a general election.
2. He won in New York City, which (thank god) is not exactly MAGA central. The going will be a lot tougher in MAGAT-ridden places such as Florida, Texas, selected other penitentiaries, etc.
Calling for the annihilation of the Jewish people and annihilating 6 million of them is what Hitler did. That’s what you all want to repeat now? Really? Call me whatever you like, but count me out. I’m done here. Bye.
And you still support it and therefore you still support the genocide, no getting away from it! You’re no different to Genocide Joe, Kamala, the orange lunatic and a whole lot of genocide loving Americans!
Is it lame? Perhaps. But it’s factual. Empirically proven, well documented and indisputable. Israel has nearly completed its genocide of the Palestinians, with absolute and essential support from United States.
I, as much as anyone, want Netanyahu to stop the genocide in Gaza. My heart bleeds for the poor Palestinians. I don’t know what Harris’ plan was for stopping it. Is it the TYPE of weapons we’re sending that is the problem here? Clearly we should not be sending offensive ones. But, as Harris said, Israel has a right to defend itself. Which doesn’t mean Netanyahu can kill Palestinians indiscriminately. What is the solution then?
Stop all financial, military, and intelligence support and cooperation with Israel. End all diplomatic ties and stop providing diplomatic cover for Israel’s crimes. Sanction all members of the Netanyahu government and major Israeli industry sectors.
Israel is a rogue, genocidal state that may well need to be militarily invaded to finally stop it from totally obliterating the Palestinian people. Short of that, the US could—and should—end all the ways we currently support it.
She made very clear that the genocide could not go on. Had she simply supported Palestinians, she would have been accused of antisemitism. Now she’s accused of supporting genocide. What is it exactly you think she ought to have done?
How did Harris “make it very clear that the genocide could not go on”?
By funding it? By accepting big bucks from AIPAC? If she had an ounce of integrity,had she been falsely accused of “antisemitism” for refusing to support & fund the mass murder of innocent people, she could have made a world of difference standing up & explaining to the American people what words mean.
What does “Israel has my unmitigated iron-clad support” mean other than support for genocide? All Kamala had to do was say the genocide has to stop and she would revisit America’s military support and she was a shoo in! Instead she supported Genocide Joe’s continued and increased funding of the genocide, totally complicit murderers!
Harris lost because she’s a woman, a woman of color, and she was not chosen through a primary but was placed as candidate. It was not due to her positions on things. She just wasn’t a good candidate. We will do better next time and find a candidate who can appeal on a national level, not restricted to one who holds narrow beliefs such as only anti-Israel/pro Palestinian. Being Far Left isn’t the answer.
You’re right about Dem party choosing candidates. Everything else you said…HUH? The important thing about a candidate is their gender & race, not their positions? Then you say a candidate shouldn’t “hold narrow beliefs.” Against genocide? “Far Left”? What are you talking about?
You can think what you want. My comment is clear. Nobody wanted Harris. She had to drop out of the 2020 primaries due to lack of support/interest. This America will not elect a woman of color. They just won’t. I don’t care what you think about that, it’s just a fact. It was a stupid choice for candidate based on that alone. Genocide is a term you choose to use and it’s being overused. What an insult to the Jews who actually faced that. I’ll never agree with Far Lefties. The Far Right & Left are both extremists, idealists. We will have a better candidate in 2028. And we will win.
Yes, Harris was a terrible candidate in 2020 & in 2024 & more importantly never should have been installed by the Dem party, but that is what they do & will continue to do. The DNC Fraud lawsuit made that very clear. And the DNC pledge. And Indivisible’s pledge. They will never run a fair primary. So whether or not America will elect a woman of color, we’ll know that if there is ever such a candidate not rammed down voters’ throats. Regarding the mass murder in Palestine, it is an attempt to wipe out an entire population but rather than argue with you over the definition of genocide, it is CLEAR from the Dem primaries last year that voters were rejecting Harris’ support & funding of Israel’s MASS MURDER of tens of thousands of innocent people. There are plenty of JEWISH people against what is happening btw. You still have not defined what a “Far Leftie” is. You say “we” will have a better candidate in 2028. Who is “we?” The Dem party?
I’m hoping the Democratic Party, of I am a member, will have a better candidate in 2028. That is the “we” I am speaking of.
I’m not a one-issue voter. I don’t like what Israel is doing in Gaza, but I’m certainly not basing my vote on that. There are more important issues on the table, such as stopping the train to authoritarianism, protecting our civil rights & the Constitution. In my opinion.
All voting machines were altered by Musk to favor Trump. Stupid Trump actually said it more than once. “I thought I was going to lose, but then they fixed it and I won. “
You left a quote here, claiming Trump said “I thought I was going to lose but then they fixed it and I won.” Share this source or you are spreading misinformation & fabricating quotes. What is the EVIDENCE “all voting machines were altered by Musk to favor Trump”??
It’s interesting to watch how national socialists are finding so much shared narratives with this particular strand of democratic socialists. I’ve never seen them repost each other stuff so much. The common ground has finally been discovered
I don’t know what you’re talking about. Democratic socialists are for democracy, pluralism, human rights, truth and justice. Nazis oppose all of that. I think you’re full of shit.
I’ll ask you more, and this is coming from someone who lived under and survived a totalitarian regime that described itself as unambiguously socialist and democratic :
How can folks that imposed will of 0.6% of NYC voters on the rest of them come November, who accepted a decidedly radical plan of action and a worldview that is very hostile to the system that made all this possible - including us here talking without fear of arrest - because of promises of cheap tax-funded groceries and free bus rides - how is all this different from MAGA trading the system for almost literal promise of fascism and dictatorship - as long as it was smoothed out by cheap eggs and brown people hurting ?
Both carriers were decidedly “elites” - very different people custom tailored for their audience. But as much as everyone enjoyed making fun of deplorable, ignorant fat MAGA people, as soon as figurehead is a tad more charismatic and young - suddenly this groupthink soup becomes palatable.
And make no mistake - these “fine people on both sides” hate Liberals with almost same passion they reserve for “Zio”s which is such an old dog whistle with fresh coat of paints
I’m really not interested in engaging with these propagandistic talking points. Respectfully. You have your ideological agenda and that is fine. You are welcome to it. You oppose what we’re trying to do here, and that’s fine. You don’t have to support zohran and you don’t have to sign the pledge. I’m not winning you over, so I’m not going to engage in bad faith dialogue with someone entrenched in their belief system. Be well. Good bye.
This is fine, I appreciate the honesty. Unlike absolutely majority of those who know better I’m actually in NYC and of the 49 people I’ve spoken with, 41 are lifetime D voters . 37 of them (!) are planning to break that precedent first time in their lives.
I’m not alone to think this generation of Americans neither deserve nor appreciate their country.
I don’t understand or respect the idea that people don’t deserve the hard won freedoms and protections of this country. That’s just plainly anti-American. Regardless of age, ideology, voting record…everyone deserves basic freedoms and opportunity. Full stop.
No, modern Nazis and diet-Nazis learned that just a few properly configured words can get people share their main sentiments. Never before did I see so much open hate and bigotry shared and encouraged in self-described left space.
You may pretend to not notice but if you’ll go to any one of these “activist” threads and write something along “Hitler was right” you’ll get a stream of likes and zero pushback.
Meanwhile if you’ll go to somewhere like “NatSocReview” or whatever they’re called you’ll see nothing but love, adoration and restocks for all the recent “heroes”.
Bombing of Iran seems to have fractured both MAGA and far-left along the trusty old fault
I think the part you are missing is that real leftwing spaces with actual human beings don’t do this and don’t tolerate this. You speak confidently about “self-described left spaces,” but you have no actual knowledge or experience of them. What you have are hateful screenshots. Cal it what it is: propaganda.
In the real world, actual real physical left wing spaces are the opposite of what you have shared. You don’t know because you are not present in them. Participate in a real leftwing space and you will be relieved to find none of this stuff exists. Pro-Palestine? Yes. Bigoted and hateful? Absolutely not. Don’t worry. It’s okay.
While I agree w your pledge issue we can’t eliminate voters We need every vote we can get. If some disagree on this issue but support us everywhere else we need those votes. What is happening is Gaza is wrong and we should say so. But don’t eliminate voters. It’s how we got trump
The point is not to eliminate voters, the point is for voters to use our power to eliminate politicians that would let us all die and suffer. Kamala could have earned the anti-genocide vote, but she pissed it away! We have the power to demand better. That is what the pledge is about: returning electoral energy back to the people and away from the elites.
Not only would she have gotten the anti-genocide vote, she would have won by a stretch! Instead she chose to, well, piss on those supporters, and they were SUPPORTERS!
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Running a campaign that you say is everything that Kamala’s wasn’t is not going to win it on a national level. He won NYC primary partly because his opponents weren’t that great. He is making promises that we have no idea if he can keep. I get it, do what the felon did; say whatever it takes and just win. It’s going to take more than being young and making great promises to get enough people on a national level to vote a particular way. I’m skeptical but willing to be proven wrong.
Dems national 'leadership' are comolicit with Trump and ran such a pathetic shambles of a campaign they wanted Trump to win and now the old Dem guard just sit in oak panelled room smiling fiercely making meaningless word salad blooooogs 🤑🤢🤮
Just to remind everyone of two painful facts we shouldn’t ignore:
1. Mamdani won a Denocratic primary, NOT a general election.
2. He won in New York City, which (thank god) is not exactly MAGA central. The going will be a lot tougher in MAGAT-ridden places such as Florida, Texas, selected other penitentiaries, etc.
Harris did/does not support genocide.
Calling for the annihilation of the Jewish people and annihilating 6 million of them is what Hitler did. That’s what you all want to repeat now? Really? Call me whatever you like, but count me out. I’m done here. Bye.
What? The Biden-Harris administration funded it!
We have always supported Israel. To say we funded genocide is a bit lame.
And you still support it and therefore you still support the genocide, no getting away from it! You’re no different to Genocide Joe, Kamala, the orange lunatic and a whole lot of genocide loving Americans!
HUH? What do you think this is?? https://www.stephensemler.com/p/the-senate-foreigns-aid-bill-is-a
Is it lame? Perhaps. But it’s factual. Empirically proven, well documented and indisputable. Israel has nearly completed its genocide of the Palestinians, with absolute and essential support from United States.
I, as much as anyone, want Netanyahu to stop the genocide in Gaza. My heart bleeds for the poor Palestinians. I don’t know what Harris’ plan was for stopping it. Is it the TYPE of weapons we’re sending that is the problem here? Clearly we should not be sending offensive ones. But, as Harris said, Israel has a right to defend itself. Which doesn’t mean Netanyahu can kill Palestinians indiscriminately. What is the solution then?
Stop all financial, military, and intelligence support and cooperation with Israel. End all diplomatic ties and stop providing diplomatic cover for Israel’s crimes. Sanction all members of the Netanyahu government and major Israeli industry sectors.
Israel is a rogue, genocidal state that may well need to be militarily invaded to finally stop it from totally obliterating the Palestinian people. Short of that, the US could—and should—end all the ways we currently support it.
Then Israel would cease to exist. Is that what we want?
But a military invasion to stop it from annihilating Palestinians and at the same time protecting its civilian citizens? Yes. I could live with that.
Harris made very explicit her intention to continue the United States’ policy of absolute support for Israel’s genocide in Gaza.
That is a textbook case of a pro-genocide politician, and it ruined what little chances she had to win over the electorate.
She made very clear that the genocide could not go on. Had she simply supported Palestinians, she would have been accused of antisemitism. Now she’s accused of supporting genocide. What is it exactly you think she ought to have done?
How did Harris “make it very clear that the genocide could not go on”?
By funding it? By accepting big bucks from AIPAC? If she had an ounce of integrity,had she been falsely accused of “antisemitism” for refusing to support & fund the mass murder of innocent people, she could have made a world of difference standing up & explaining to the American people what words mean.
What does “Israel has my unmitigated iron-clad support” mean other than support for genocide? All Kamala had to do was say the genocide has to stop and she would revisit America’s military support and she was a shoo in! Instead she supported Genocide Joe’s continued and increased funding of the genocide, totally complicit murderers!
Done ✅
10 years from now NYC will look like Paris and London look today.
Harris lost because she’s a woman, a woman of color, and she was not chosen through a primary but was placed as candidate. It was not due to her positions on things. She just wasn’t a good candidate. We will do better next time and find a candidate who can appeal on a national level, not restricted to one who holds narrow beliefs such as only anti-Israel/pro Palestinian. Being Far Left isn’t the answer.
Kamala was a shoo in as the final vote counts show, all she had to do was to condemn the genocide and promise to reassess US funding, very simple!
You’re right about Dem party choosing candidates. Everything else you said…HUH? The important thing about a candidate is their gender & race, not their positions? Then you say a candidate shouldn’t “hold narrow beliefs.” Against genocide? “Far Left”? What are you talking about?
You can think what you want. My comment is clear. Nobody wanted Harris. She had to drop out of the 2020 primaries due to lack of support/interest. This America will not elect a woman of color. They just won’t. I don’t care what you think about that, it’s just a fact. It was a stupid choice for candidate based on that alone. Genocide is a term you choose to use and it’s being overused. What an insult to the Jews who actually faced that. I’ll never agree with Far Lefties. The Far Right & Left are both extremists, idealists. We will have a better candidate in 2028. And we will win.
See my comments elsewhere, Kamala was a shoo in and the final vote counts clearly shows that!
Yes, Harris was a terrible candidate in 2020 & in 2024 & more importantly never should have been installed by the Dem party, but that is what they do & will continue to do. The DNC Fraud lawsuit made that very clear. And the DNC pledge. And Indivisible’s pledge. They will never run a fair primary. So whether or not America will elect a woman of color, we’ll know that if there is ever such a candidate not rammed down voters’ throats. Regarding the mass murder in Palestine, it is an attempt to wipe out an entire population but rather than argue with you over the definition of genocide, it is CLEAR from the Dem primaries last year that voters were rejecting Harris’ support & funding of Israel’s MASS MURDER of tens of thousands of innocent people. There are plenty of JEWISH people against what is happening btw. You still have not defined what a “Far Leftie” is. You say “we” will have a better candidate in 2028. Who is “we?” The Dem party?
I’m hoping the Democratic Party, of I am a member, will have a better candidate in 2028. That is the “we” I am speaking of.
I’m not a one-issue voter. I don’t like what Israel is doing in Gaza, but I’m certainly not basing my vote on that. There are more important issues on the table, such as stopping the train to authoritarianism, protecting our civil rights & the Constitution. In my opinion.
Trump only won because they cheated, Kamala won.
Links?
All voting machines were altered by Musk to favor Trump. Stupid Trump actually said it more than once. “I thought I was going to lose, but then they fixed it and I won. “
Check into it.
You left a quote here, claiming Trump said “I thought I was going to lose but then they fixed it and I won.” Share this source or you are spreading misinformation & fabricating quotes. What is the EVIDENCE “all voting machines were altered by Musk to favor Trump”??
It’s been right on this platform.
Saw it right here on Substack.
Receipts
Where are you getting this?
Source?
It’s interesting to watch how national socialists are finding so much shared narratives with this particular strand of democratic socialists. I’ve never seen them repost each other stuff so much. The common ground has finally been discovered
I don’t know what you’re talking about. Democratic socialists are for democracy, pluralism, human rights, truth and justice. Nazis oppose all of that. I think you’re full of shit.
I’ll ask you more, and this is coming from someone who lived under and survived a totalitarian regime that described itself as unambiguously socialist and democratic :
How can folks that imposed will of 0.6% of NYC voters on the rest of them come November, who accepted a decidedly radical plan of action and a worldview that is very hostile to the system that made all this possible - including us here talking without fear of arrest - because of promises of cheap tax-funded groceries and free bus rides - how is all this different from MAGA trading the system for almost literal promise of fascism and dictatorship - as long as it was smoothed out by cheap eggs and brown people hurting ?
Both carriers were decidedly “elites” - very different people custom tailored for their audience. But as much as everyone enjoyed making fun of deplorable, ignorant fat MAGA people, as soon as figurehead is a tad more charismatic and young - suddenly this groupthink soup becomes palatable.
And make no mistake - these “fine people on both sides” hate Liberals with almost same passion they reserve for “Zio”s which is such an old dog whistle with fresh coat of paints
I took the pledge. Thank you for making the link available.
I’m really not interested in engaging with these propagandistic talking points. Respectfully. You have your ideological agenda and that is fine. You are welcome to it. You oppose what we’re trying to do here, and that’s fine. You don’t have to support zohran and you don’t have to sign the pledge. I’m not winning you over, so I’m not going to engage in bad faith dialogue with someone entrenched in their belief system. Be well. Good bye.
This is fine, I appreciate the honesty. Unlike absolutely majority of those who know better I’m actually in NYC and of the 49 people I’ve spoken with, 41 are lifetime D voters . 37 of them (!) are planning to break that precedent first time in their lives.
I’m not alone to think this generation of Americans neither deserve nor appreciate their country.
I don’t understand or respect the idea that people don’t deserve the hard won freedoms and protections of this country. That’s just plainly anti-American. Regardless of age, ideology, voting record…everyone deserves basic freedoms and opportunity. Full stop.
No, modern Nazis and diet-Nazis learned that just a few properly configured words can get people share their main sentiments. Never before did I see so much open hate and bigotry shared and encouraged in self-described left space.
I would really love to know what you have personally witnessed in leftwing spaces that you feel is “open hate and bigotry”
I can’t add screenshots here so I can only link them https://substack.com/profile/54347608-ilia-volyova/note/c-130755402?r=wcuvs&utm_medium=ios&utm_source=notes-share-action
You may pretend to not notice but if you’ll go to any one of these “activist” threads and write something along “Hitler was right” you’ll get a stream of likes and zero pushback.
Meanwhile if you’ll go to somewhere like “NatSocReview” or whatever they’re called you’ll see nothing but love, adoration and restocks for all the recent “heroes”.
Bombing of Iran seems to have fractured both MAGA and far-left along the trusty old fault
I think the part you are missing is that real leftwing spaces with actual human beings don’t do this and don’t tolerate this. You speak confidently about “self-described left spaces,” but you have no actual knowledge or experience of them. What you have are hateful screenshots. Cal it what it is: propaganda.
In the real world, actual real physical left wing spaces are the opposite of what you have shared. You don’t know because you are not present in them. Participate in a real leftwing space and you will be relieved to find none of this stuff exists. Pro-Palestine? Yes. Bigoted and hateful? Absolutely not. Don’t worry. It’s okay.
While I agree w your pledge issue we can’t eliminate voters We need every vote we can get. If some disagree on this issue but support us everywhere else we need those votes. What is happening is Gaza is wrong and we should say so. But don’t eliminate voters. It’s how we got trump
The point is not to eliminate voters, the point is for voters to use our power to eliminate politicians that would let us all die and suffer. Kamala could have earned the anti-genocide vote, but she pissed it away! We have the power to demand better. That is what the pledge is about: returning electoral energy back to the people and away from the elites.
Not only would she have gotten the anti-genocide vote, she would have won by a stretch! Instead she chose to, well, piss on those supporters, and they were SUPPORTERS!
Evan,
Yes, it's good of you to celebrate this moment.
And thanks for standing alongside it.
Shall we do our best, however, to shine our light upon *them?*
And what are *their* pages therefore?
Zohran and Brad both have accounts here on Substack. Follow them! And follow the link in the post to sign the pledge. 🙏
Evan,
I'd like to hear something about *you*
What are you on about in your own life?
But yes - of course: Zohran is a shining example.
Meanwhile, I would like to hear about *you*
Kindly,
-d
Ok. Thanks for your reply.
I wanted to learn a bit more about you, and sadly I found that yours is a 'gated' community :(
And that has stopped me from being able to enlarge upon the conversation that I would liked to have had.
And, btw, I know a thing or two about white Burgundy :)
Set yourself free my son!
Life is far too short for that other thing.
Sorry. Everything I publish is automatically paywalled after six months. I’ll send you the full version in the morning. Thanks for your interest.
Quite sad and I concur with the doctor!
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Courage mon vieu!
I am sorry my son.
But I feel that my work here is done.
Good luck to you.
Running a campaign that you say is everything that Kamala’s wasn’t is not going to win it on a national level. He won NYC primary partly because his opponents weren’t that great. He is making promises that we have no idea if he can keep. I get it, do what the felon did; say whatever it takes and just win. It’s going to take more than being young and making great promises to get enough people on a national level to vote a particular way. I’m skeptical but willing to be proven wrong.
Clearly voters can be lied to about everything as long as they think you are in their side. Trump lies all the time and won handily
Zohran is honest, Trump is not. That is the difference.
I'm an old,white woman & I'm all in!
Dems national 'leadership' are comolicit with Trump and ran such a pathetic shambles of a campaign they wanted Trump to win and now the old Dem guard just sit in oak panelled room smiling fiercely making meaningless word salad blooooogs 🤑🤢🤮
Me Too TiK🌮