Don’t think for one minute you will be welcomed here in America! We already have enough ignorant racists we need to get rid of as it is!
Over the last 60 years Netanyahu/Israel has cost the American people more than money can compensate! Israel has been but a leech, a tick on the spine of America and we’re Done with that!
The Palestinian Basic Law (their Constitution) is clear that Islam is the national religion of Palestine and laws are based on Sharia. Is this something you support? If so, why do you support Islamism?
Brilliant framing tbh. The shift from seeing expulsion as the natural endpoint to positioning it as extremist while coexistence becomes moderate is probly the most compelling reframe I've encountered yet. I remeber following debates around South Africa's transition and that same inversion happened there when truth commissions replaced the assumed path ofretribution. Makes the so-called pragmatists look like they're actually clinging to fantasies.
If you look at the beginning of the American Declaration of Independence, there’s a section that starts, “Governments are instituted among men.” Sparing you the 18th c prose, it says that people create governments to serve their needs, and when a government becomes a threat to those needs, people have a right to abolish it and form another that works. People talk about Israel’s right to exist when in fact no government has a *right* to exist. People have a right to exist. Governments earn the privilege of existing, or not, depending on how they treat people.
What an interesting proposition. I am not a Jew. But I have profound admiration for both moderate educated Jews who have brought so much culture to my Western world for millennia, and for the ordinary Palestinians who have struggled through hell and high water, and yet maintained some sort of living (until 7 October 2023 that is).
I'm not sure that even liberal Jews will like your proposal. But I agree that liberal Jews and liberal Palestinians (or let's just say the non-extremists on either side) have always been able to work together. I have read so many reports pre 7 October 2023 and over many years of Palestinians crossing the border daily to work with Israelis, and a few the other way around.
But as you say, there is a deep, imperative need for compensation and restoration for the ordinary Palestinian people who have lost so many thousands of loved ones, entire communities and even their densest cities to Netanyahu's depredations and his thuggish armed forces.
I doubt that even the most generous of monetary war reparations could work - either in practice or because the damage has been far more symbolic and deep rooted for the Palestinians. They are as deeply rooted in their land as are the Israelis who have, let's face it, existed en masse in Israel for less than 80 years, and many for a matter of a decade or two only. The Palestinians, on the other hand, have lived there on and off for thousands of years.
So I do hope that your suggestion reaches powerful and sympathetic ears that can implement something like your moderate solution: a single Palestine, where Jews and Palestinians can work together in peace, and where some sort of "truth and reconciliation" process can begin and ultimately end in peace in the Middle East.
Please say Israelis. Judaism is not an ethnicity, it's a religion. Palestinian is an ethnicity, not a religion. Words matter! The world has this misconception just because Israel says it is the Jewish state, it is not populated by Jewish people ONLY!!! it is an extremely ethnically diverse and religiously diverse country there are millions of Arabs, Christians of every branch, Buddhists, messianic Mom Muslims, witches, devil worship many more. There is one town in Israel where the majority of the black Ethiopian Jews live and thrive. They are wonderful people! I lived in Israel for a while. They've been trying to get him out of office for more than 2 1/2 decades! He's a Jewish man from Poland that wasn't embarrassed because he was a Polish Jew (I have no idea why he was embarrassed by that) and changed his name. Since then he's been throwing Jewish people and the state of Israel under the bus for his own gain!! in a matter of 2 1/4 years he has his made life for every Jewish person around the world difficult to say the least! 95% of Jews worldwide do not like him and do not agree with his tactics because they're barbaric! The leaders of countries are around the world you should follow at your own risk!
Don’t think for one minute you will be welcomed here in America! We already have enough ignorant racists we need to get rid of as it is!
Over the last 60 years Netanyahu/Israel has cost the American people more than money can compensate! Israel has been but a leech, a tick on the spine of America and we’re Done with that!
Wow, German Jews can now claim their right to Germany.
The Palestinian Basic Law (their Constitution) is clear that Islam is the national religion of Palestine and laws are based on Sharia. Is this something you support? If so, why do you support Islamism?
Brilliant framing tbh. The shift from seeing expulsion as the natural endpoint to positioning it as extremist while coexistence becomes moderate is probly the most compelling reframe I've encountered yet. I remeber following debates around South Africa's transition and that same inversion happened there when truth commissions replaced the assumed path ofretribution. Makes the so-called pragmatists look like they're actually clinging to fantasies.
If you look at the beginning of the American Declaration of Independence, there’s a section that starts, “Governments are instituted among men.” Sparing you the 18th c prose, it says that people create governments to serve their needs, and when a government becomes a threat to those needs, people have a right to abolish it and form another that works. People talk about Israel’s right to exist when in fact no government has a *right* to exist. People have a right to exist. Governments earn the privilege of existing, or not, depending on how they treat people.
What an interesting proposition. I am not a Jew. But I have profound admiration for both moderate educated Jews who have brought so much culture to my Western world for millennia, and for the ordinary Palestinians who have struggled through hell and high water, and yet maintained some sort of living (until 7 October 2023 that is).
I'm not sure that even liberal Jews will like your proposal. But I agree that liberal Jews and liberal Palestinians (or let's just say the non-extremists on either side) have always been able to work together. I have read so many reports pre 7 October 2023 and over many years of Palestinians crossing the border daily to work with Israelis, and a few the other way around.
But as you say, there is a deep, imperative need for compensation and restoration for the ordinary Palestinian people who have lost so many thousands of loved ones, entire communities and even their densest cities to Netanyahu's depredations and his thuggish armed forces.
I doubt that even the most generous of monetary war reparations could work - either in practice or because the damage has been far more symbolic and deep rooted for the Palestinians. They are as deeply rooted in their land as are the Israelis who have, let's face it, existed en masse in Israel for less than 80 years, and many for a matter of a decade or two only. The Palestinians, on the other hand, have lived there on and off for thousands of years.
So I do hope that your suggestion reaches powerful and sympathetic ears that can implement something like your moderate solution: a single Palestine, where Jews and Palestinians can work together in peace, and where some sort of "truth and reconciliation" process can begin and ultimately end in peace in the Middle East.
Please say Israelis. Judaism is not an ethnicity, it's a religion. Palestinian is an ethnicity, not a religion. Words matter! The world has this misconception just because Israel says it is the Jewish state, it is not populated by Jewish people ONLY!!! it is an extremely ethnically diverse and religiously diverse country there are millions of Arabs, Christians of every branch, Buddhists, messianic Mom Muslims, witches, devil worship many more. There is one town in Israel where the majority of the black Ethiopian Jews live and thrive. They are wonderful people! I lived in Israel for a while. They've been trying to get him out of office for more than 2 1/2 decades! He's a Jewish man from Poland that wasn't embarrassed because he was a Polish Jew (I have no idea why he was embarrassed by that) and changed his name. Since then he's been throwing Jewish people and the state of Israel under the bus for his own gain!! in a matter of 2 1/4 years he has his made life for every Jewish person around the world difficult to say the least! 95% of Jews worldwide do not like him and do not agree with his tactics because they're barbaric! The leaders of countries are around the world you should follow at your own risk!
Thank you Sarah.